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Is 30 Seconds to Mars fans part of a cult?

Is 30 Seconds to Mars fans part of a cult? Topic: importance of conclusion
July 18, 2019 / By Pallu
Question: I love the band but I've heard they're like a cult? This part of their Wiki page confuses me: "The Echelon The Echelon are the fanbase for 30 Seconds to Mars, though they refute the term fanbase and consider themselves a "family". The Echelon have created philanthropic charities based on the band's charitable work for the environment and Haiti. The Echelon are named after a song on the debut album, 30 Seconds to Mars. Concerning the Echelon, Jared Leto has stated the following: "Some people ask us if this is a cult. I say this: It's something special. It's not for everyone – it's only for those who understand.""
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Linton Linton | 7 days ago
One of the band's sayings/mottos is "Yes this is a cult." It can be seen on t-shirts, sweatshirts, videos (In 'Attack' the words flash across the screen as a 'written' sentence. In 'Closer To The Edge' the motto is seen as white text against black backdrop.), etc. 1. The word 'cult' originally had a positive spin, from the latin cultus "care, labor; cultivation, culture; worship, reverence," originally "tended, cultivated," Definition - an instance of great veneration (profound respect or reverence) of a person, ideal, or thing; a devout or overly zealous group (usually smaller & more personal) of dedicated people who support and/or follow a person, group, or religious belief that is not of the 'norm' (ie. the norm = God, Jehovah, Greek Orthodox, etc) or considered strange or different by others. It was not until around the mid 20th century when a negative spin was put on the word when it was used in references by the media to occults (ie. Charles Manson, Jonesboro, etc.). The term 'occult' (occult is from the latin occultus "hidden, concealed, secret,") should have been used & would be the proper word when referring to a sinister, evil or negative gathering, NOT 'cult'. Once again, and I cannot repeat this enough, even though 'cult' is now used too loosely to describe all such groups, evil or otherwise, this term is 20-21st century jargon, NOT the root/original definition/meaning of the word 'cult'. So, in this instance the reason 30STM is stating "Yes, this is a cult", is because they are referring to die-hard fans (Echelon - one feels of importance "something special' by knowing and being part of something so unique) who like something that is not for everybody nor is recognized by the masses (hence "It's not for everyone"). 2. As far as "it's only for those who understand", this is my take: A. The people within this circle called 'Echelon', get (understand) that being called a 'cult' is a positive and personal reference; whereas, most 'outsiders' would jump to the wrong conclusions about what he is implying. B. 30STM is very careful to remain ambiguous (ambiguous=that which can have multiple interpretations because no one set meaning has been given) in almost all aspects: their lyrics, style, the band itself, their glyphs & symbolism (they like to leave it so people theorize as to the meanings behind all their iconography; sort of like a riddle). They don't often make any statements in regards to what something means. Even at times when they have stated the meaning behind a video (ie. The Kill, Hurricane), they DO NOT state that this is necessarily the meaning or the only interpretation to that song when it was written. Jared stated in MTV interview '30STM: State Of The Union", that their songs can be interpreted by fans as they see fit, because once he writes a song and the band releases it, they "relinquish ownership" of it (see 2:06 into this link: http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/647401/ja... I recommend watching whole interview (they mention the Echelon family thing), it's very insightful: http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/647264/30... You 'understand' 30STM by knowing there is no real way to in fact know what they are implying, unless they state it themselves. They like to keep things up-in-the-air so that people discuss, theorize & share their ideas. They like to make it so we open our eyes & see that there can always be multiple answers to most questions ("the simple answer is never what it seems" - 'Search & Destroy'), we can find questions to the answers. Because of these things, I think what he is saying is yet another riddle which he is leaving open to theorizing & discussion. We understand them by admitting that we do NOT know (understand) everything about them. I know A LOT about 30STM, but I would be totally lying if I said 'I know EVERYTHING about 30STM'. The only people who are privy to knowing it all about them, is the band itself. The band inspired me to come up with this saying: "If we knew everything, then there would be nothing left to learn; And where would the adventure & fun be in that? Live to learn and you learn to live."
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Linton Originally Answered: 30 seconds to mars question?
Virgin Records said the name "actually comes from a thesis that the band found online that was written by a former Harvard professor. And one of the subsections of the thesis was titled 'thirty seconds to mars [sic]' and he goes on to talk about the exponential growth of technology that relates to humans and saying that we are quite literally thirty seconds to mars. What it means to us is, we thought it best described our music, in short."

Jarrett Jarrett
No, I am a huge 30 Seconds to Mars fan so I don't know if they would consider me The Echelon. But if that's a cult then so are the JB fan girls and a lot of other band fan bases.
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Freeman Freeman
RE: Is 30 Seconds to Mars fans part of a cult? I love the band but I've heard they're like a cult? This part of their Wiki page confuses me: "The Echelon The Echelon are the fanbase for 30 Seconds to Mars, though they refute the term fanbase and consider themselves a "family". The Echelon have created philanthropic...
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Delmar Delmar
I love 30 Seconds To Mars. I think there songs are astonishing, but this 'Echelon cult' is a new one on me.
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Delmar Originally Answered: Bands like 30 Seconds to Mars?
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